They should also be required to prosecute the men who got the women pregnant. That will make them think twice about proposing these horrible laws. The women didn’t get pregnant by themselves.
They should also be required to prosecute the men who got the women pregnant. That will make them think twice about proposing these horrible laws. The women didn’t get pregnant by themselves.
I do think that prosecution/execution of the impregnators is too important to be left out of the bill. Women throughout recorded time have always borne the heaviest burden of giving life, sustaining life, even in the absence of male support, which has too often been fickle and terminally careless, or homicidal. Now that we have the ability to definitively identify the responsible male there should be no grounds for legal quibbling. Unlike complaints of rape there is indisputable evidence of guilt.
I have one daughter and believe me it is terrifying. She's already shutting down the idea of having children and she's only 20. We are definitely considering norplant or an IUD as a backup to other contraceptives. As her mother it breaks my heart that she may never have children but I am grateful that she will choose whatever is best for HER.
Amen! We will never really address legitimate concerns about abortion if we continue to act like women get themselves pregnant. Then again, these folks literally believe in an immaculate conception, so there is that.
My fix is every women who gets pregnant gets a free paternity test so the father will have to pay child support. I bet that will at least make men be more accountable. Let's face it, women aren't getting pregnant without help. Our misogynistic society ID driving me crazy.
Courts issue child support orders all the time & have for decades. However, courts don’t always enforce those orders.
Years ago, after my ex husband & children’s father had been issued several support orders and ignored them all, I called the Sheriff’s office & told the sheriff the orders said failure to pay would result in arrest. —The Sheriff’s reply? “Lady, I’ve got bigger fish to fry.”
A support order, alone, is not enough. A man can be held legally/criminally liable & still be issued a support order. In fact, failure to pay support should be treated as what it is: child neglect.
one year our Governor decided to give all tax payers some tax money back as there was a surplus. In our organization the money was distributed to everyone via payroll. Any man who was known to be late with child support didn’t get the money -went to the mom.
Well at the time I oversaw payroll! You should have heard some of those men. It was horrible.
The fact that men will never vote to hold men accountable for unwanted pregnancies is no reason not to start demanding it.
If men can’t control where they spew their seed, they should be treated the same as any other negligent person who causes physical, emotional, or financial harm to another. If pregnancy results in the death of the mother or child, the man responsible should be charged with involuntary homicide just as an irresponsible driver who caused death would be.
Men should not escape the financial responsibility of parenthood, either. Children have needs and needs cost money. Fathers should be made to bear those costs equally.
Society suffers many economic impacts when children are not cared for by those responsible for their births. Society should ensure neither parent shirks his or her responsibility if society deems every fetus equal to fully realized people, however ridiculous and erroneous that notion is.
They should also be required to prosecute the men who got the women pregnant. That will make them think twice about proposing these horrible laws. The women didn’t get pregnant by themselves.
I do think that prosecution/execution of the impregnators is too important to be left out of the bill. Women throughout recorded time have always borne the heaviest burden of giving life, sustaining life, even in the absence of male support, which has too often been fickle and terminally careless, or homicidal. Now that we have the ability to definitively identify the responsible male there should be no grounds for legal quibbling. Unlike complaints of rape there is indisputable evidence of guilt.
It takes 2 to tango!!!
But, what about immaculate conception?
I'm grateful I don't have children ( not disparaging moms in any way!!!!) AND that I'm past the childbearing age. This crap is unreal!!!!😡😡😡
I have one daughter and believe me it is terrifying. She's already shutting down the idea of having children and she's only 20. We are definitely considering norplant or an IUD as a backup to other contraceptives. As her mother it breaks my heart that she may never have children but I am grateful that she will choose whatever is best for HER.
Amen! We will never really address legitimate concerns about abortion if we continue to act like women get themselves pregnant. Then again, these folks literally believe in an immaculate conception, so there is that.
I’ve thought this so many times. The fact that there is no penalty for the death shows it’s not about preserving life, it’s about punishing women.
It takes two to tango, after all.
Mitch Boucher- You’re right. And two should be held equally responsible under the law.
Glad we see eye-to-eye on this.
My fix is every women who gets pregnant gets a free paternity test so the father will have to pay child support. I bet that will at least make men be more accountable. Let's face it, women aren't getting pregnant without help. Our misogynistic society ID driving me crazy.
Courts issue child support orders all the time & have for decades. However, courts don’t always enforce those orders.
Years ago, after my ex husband & children’s father had been issued several support orders and ignored them all, I called the Sheriff’s office & told the sheriff the orders said failure to pay would result in arrest. —The Sheriff’s reply? “Lady, I’ve got bigger fish to fry.”
A support order, alone, is not enough. A man can be held legally/criminally liable & still be issued a support order. In fact, failure to pay support should be treated as what it is: child neglect.
one year our Governor decided to give all tax payers some tax money back as there was a surplus. In our organization the money was distributed to everyone via payroll. Any man who was known to be late with child support didn’t get the money -went to the mom.
Well at the time I oversaw payroll! You should have heard some of those men. It was horrible.
They'd never hold themselves accountable to the standard to which they hold women accountable. Ever.
Make it illegal for men to jack off …..the ejaculation is killing thousands of children. Its only fair
cf. Every Sperm is Sacred
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
cf. Every Sperm is Sacred: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
Not to me. It’s not even as ‘real’ as a fully formed tadpole.
Watch it-
The fact that men will never vote to hold men accountable for unwanted pregnancies is no reason not to start demanding it.
If men can’t control where they spew their seed, they should be treated the same as any other negligent person who causes physical, emotional, or financial harm to another. If pregnancy results in the death of the mother or child, the man responsible should be charged with involuntary homicide just as an irresponsible driver who caused death would be.
Men should not escape the financial responsibility of parenthood, either. Children have needs and needs cost money. Fathers should be made to bear those costs equally.
Society suffers many economic impacts when children are not cared for by those responsible for their births. Society should ensure neither parent shirks his or her responsibility if society deems every fetus equal to fully realized people, however ridiculous and erroneous that notion is.