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Well, looks like we had a troll on this conversation that totally sidetracked it.

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I think I was clear--I said a third party candidate won't win this time around. I will probably vote for Kamala, although being in CA, I could vote for Claudia De la Cruz.

Kamala has a lot going for her AND she could do much better. When I heard her repeating the lies around October 7 and promising "most lethal fighting force in the world," I felt ill. So I refuse to judge anyone who can't bring themselves to vote for her, especially those with ties to Palestine.

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Unfortunately, given the dire threat of Project 2025, a vote for anyone other than Harris is in effect a vote for trump. Hey, we already have the most lethal fighting force in the world! There is no new threat there... Also, in regard to Palestine, most of us agree this is untenable. If we allow trump to win, it will be much worse. His attitude towards Palestine is to tell Netanyahu "just finish the job"...

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It is not the GOP platform.

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Are you saying that Project 2025 is not the GOP platform? The same guy who wrote much of P 2025 wrote the GOP platform. The primary writers of P 2025 are trump former administrators. Trump spoke at the heritage Foundation meeting in 2023 when they unveiled this Plan and said that it coincide with his intentions for the 2024 election. Trump only lies, don't believe him.

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It may not be the GOP, er excuse me, formal Trump platform, but Trump embraced the Planin 2023, stating to the effect that his victory in 2o24 would bring it to pass.

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Crooked Trump For Prison!

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Mr MAGA has already been destroying our USA’s democracy, honor, political system, reputation, and each other, FROM WITHIN, even before being elected by the ‘Electoral College’ NOT THE PEOPLE, president of this very young & naïve country.

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We also need to be discussing the fact that the far right and their dark money(Koch brothers) are pushing for an Article V convention to rewrite the entire constitution. They only need about 6 more state legislatures to sign on. Our state governments are certainly not working for us.

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This is true. Hopefully there will be no more signatures pushing for a convention.

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I need to correct an error I made in a previous post. I posted that the heads of all the major networks are Trump donors, which I have since learned is false. I apologize for not fact-checking that before I shared it. You can find the fact-checking on Snopes.

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They may not be trump donors, but for the most part they are republican.

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Dismantling the administrative state and rendering it nonfunctional is the goal of Project 2025. Seniors depend on retirement benefits and medical care, which they so cavalierly toss aside. Women don't want to be turned away from ER care. Only cowards pick on the vulnerable. Read the Foreword at least. It's all there.

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They want to change the administrative state. Project 2025 will replace merit based civil service system with a system that hires only trump sympathizers. Conservative organizations are already recruiting and training people for this... not imagining... reality.

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I just caught a little of you on Anthony Davis's THE WEEKEND SHOW. I'm getting ready for bed and will finish watching tomorrow.

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I apologize for calling the writer a melonhead. The left has a very loyal following despite its inability to create a sustainable society for humans, this left has and will descend to communism with the help of the fake right they teach you to hate. Christ is the only way you get out of this alive, no other version of the truth other than the straight up Biblical version. Love you Sam Katz.

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There are people on the left who are trying to create a sustainable society for humans. Many of these are Christians, who try to put their faith into practice. Their work has gradually improved society. Consider the social and health progress made since FDR; before him there was no social security, no medicare, no child health program (CHIP), few workers rights... e.g. a 5 day work week.

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The left is trying to create a sustainable society, but it is difficult with the amount of money going into elections. The left will not descent into communism... that is pure rightwing BS.

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You’re no Christian. You claim the mantle of religion in order to push your politics. You’re chaff on Judgment Day.

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Love you rc

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You don't know what that means.

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The contents of Project 2025 have been on the GOP's agenda for years, and red states have been applying those policies already. We must be disgusted and shocked, but not surprised.

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The theories have been on their agenda; the detailed plan as to how to put this into practice was developed by trump administration people who learned first hand what was blocking them from doing more damage in his first term.

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This is the worst piece of journalism I've ever read. You are simply projecting your opinion of what America first means to you. I can't believe anyone would pay to read a parrot of Rachel Maddow mixed with Cobert. Who censors who melonhead?

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This is very thoughtful journalism. You are behaving like a Project 2025 apologist.

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Look it up. Nothing is being projected. Trump’s chief advisor — the odious imprisoned Steve Bannon — just did an interview with David Brooks at the New York Times. Bannon is fully on board with this and made it very clear. Calling people names doesn’t put you out there as some intelligent being … you’re just a nasty person calling people names. What does that mean? Look up the heritage foundation and weep, child. Using that old GOP trope “parrot” is so immature as to be pathetic. By the way, I had an African gray parrot, and it was more intelligent the most right wingers I know.

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I've read the project and I like it, strong family, no more endless war, get rid of admin state. Give peace a chance. America first. Yall got the left twisted and the fake right but what do you expect reading NY times garbo. Let's not debate insulting one another's intellect in order to make a point. I apologize for the melonhead jab.

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Yeah, you like a distatorship which is what this proposes. All power to the president; the constitution undermined. If you can't see that, well that's on you.

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Project 2025 is pure fascism, dude. The "administrative state" is the ONLY thing keeping you safe. As for no more "endless war" -- we are NOT at War, in case it eludes you. However, without support to our allies, we're probably toast. Unless you want to be speaking Russian or Chinese, peace is not determined by America right now. That's delusion. By the way, the countries who want to take you over are Communist nations, so it's odd you would be on board with letting that economic system spread. Or are you supporting a Manchurian candidate and you, too, are a former KGB agent, like Putin? Of course, you're willing to give up women's rights to their own bodies -- as if there was something humane about FORCING a woman to bear children she doesn't want, or a child of rape or incest. That, dear James, is SICK. Are you a SICKO? Is that why you support the end of a woman's right to choose and birth control? I'm not "Christian" and have NO intentions of paying my tax dollars to support religious indoctrination or deny science. You might think denying climate change is okay, but Mother Nature isn't interested in your shitty science denial or ignorance. Climate change is real, and if you haven't learned by now the planet is burning up, you certainly won't have to worry about "hell," as we'll be living in it without food or water and burning up alive. Project 2025 is a sick, deranged, fascist societal plan. Labor unions, which they want to destroy, have given Americans everything they have on the job, including health benefits, holidays, safety and labor protections; and unless you want to go back to slave labor (which you might), you have to be incredibly ignorant to think some Robber Baron is going to treat you any better than the Gilded Age treated it's workers. America First was the slogan of the American Nazi Party during WWII. No thanks. Your comments insult everyone's intelligence. As for the NY Times, it is as brilliant as it ever was. The fact that you don't read it or mock it might account for some of your ignorance. Being a White, Christian male who thinks he deserves to own the world doesn't cut any mustard with me. In case your mama and papa never made it clear to you, you are not superior to anyone else, so no, I'm not planning to be ruled over by the Christian patriarchy any more. You better get used to it, dude. Not buying the shit from the fake "evangelical" racist, xenophobic, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, Islamophobic anti-Semitic, porn star fucking, pussy-grabbers and financial cheats. By the way, for a party that supports a man who paid off a porn star and then lied about, I'm fascinated by Project 2025 attacking porn. That's hilarious! Trust me, when the door closes, I'm sure it's biggest, loudest proponents of Project 2025 are screwing their brains out with porn stars while lying to their spouses -- hypocritical asswipes they all are. No surprises there. That has never changed throughout history, which is why the Catholic Church shielded so many pedophiles for centuries, as all religious institutions have. Project 2025 will make NO headway in America. The centuries have seen so many wanna be dictators come and go -- and in the end, they all get thrown out on their fetid, disgusting asses.

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Youve somehow become a very angry bitter person. I feel sorry for you. I dont really feel like any open minded discourse can happen here. Love you. I sincerly do, not some trying to be religous and evangelize. We all make mistakes Sam. Life is too short. Look out for the next pandemic, look out for the fake civil war, dont take their fake bird flu vaccines these things might make you meaner than you already are. Oh yeah when your party gets us into a nuclear war, we're all going to burn up

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Good grief! Cut the BS about loving Sam. He is telling you about the realities of Project 2025 in regard to the well being of women, the climate, rights of LGBTQ, of immigrants. You seem to fixated on vaccines; there may be problems with the COVID vaccine, but that is not a reason to ditch the Constitution and the republic.

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HUH? You don' know me. WTF, dude? I'm a total stranger, and I just joined this website. You don't "love me," you don't even know me. Project 2025 is serious stuff, so why would I think breezily of this topic? Maybe you think your idiot comments are "funny," but don't quit your day job. There is NO humor here, just some weird fucking post ... wow. Open minded discourse should not include repression of other human beings, like women or LGBTQ community or all the other people Project 2025 attacks and wants to force back into some deranged form of slavery. I don't know who you are, dude, so I really cannot account for your odd comments.

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Go pound sand.

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It's amazing how emotionally attached to these ideas you are. I am a human being and you don't know me either but you take these political issues so seriously you sound rabid. Heavily boosted has prolly got you inflamed. You get fascism mixed up when your party is the one controlling the narrative.

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Parrots have been proven to have cognitive abilities, something James T. Is sorely lacking.

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There may not be an easy answer, but the 14th amendment comes as close as you’ll get. We have public officials that have made threats, openly supported sedition, and sided against US interests in favor of a foreign adversary. If that doesn’t qualify, then nothing does.

The problem is that Democrats are weak, selfish creatures too enamored with the status quo to do anything about it. Most of them, at least. We need new leadership, people that have a spine and will put our nation before their self interests.

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Good and thoughtful writing.

For my part I think the US experiment ended with the 2000 coronation of Bush Jr. by an arguably less corrupt USSC

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Qasim and Readers alike: This empire has subsisted solely off the stolen labor and stolen lands of Indigenous people. What we are seeing in Project 2025 and the u.s. election as a whole is the inevitable outcome of an unsustainable system built on genocide.

What you've described in this article has been the status quo for Indiegnous (Black / Native) people since the arrival of Europeans to this continent.

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You're absolutely right. There's no getting away from the fact that this nation was built on the genocide of one people and enslavement of another, and no meaningful reparations paid to even try to dismantle the systemic injustices that emerged thereof.

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I have that quote on a bumper sticker on my truck. One person actually seemed to appreciate it. How did Sinclair know, around 1935 that it would come here?

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It's attributed to him but I don't think there's clear evidence he said it. The principle sadly applies none the less.

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Mr. Rashid is correct, there is no actual record of him writing or saying that. It has also been erroneously atributed to Huey Long.

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