What on earth is wrong with using your given middlename and married last name? Or is it just OK on your side to question racial alliance when they have an "R" next to their name? Curious, how do you reconcile "Beto"?
How disheartening to see the things people do to be accepted within a group. Yes, let’s stay focused. Trump and Republicans are working hard to make this an election for the ages. Let’s not let them bring in another slate of weird to spew disinformation about our voting systems. #NOTAGAIN
That whitewashing part was formerly ingrained into all color of people in my area of southern Mississippi. It still is, & I call it out when I see it, regardless of person’s skin pigment. There are absolutely black nationalists & christo-fascists in my area. I’ve met them & they absolutely have hate of “other” that they will not budge about due to their traumas or their grandparents traumas or great grandparents traumas. Just more proof IMO that religion isn’t as healing as people here believe.
I never thought I would ever in my life live in a city in the USA that values their confederate statues over human beings. I drive by the concrete crap every week & not once has my anger at the human injustice of it abated.
I live in a city that is so oblivious to humans & animals, that it continues to allow an 8’ish person carriage ride (usually hauling obese people) through downtown pulled by a single small horse, on the exact days we have consistent back to back heat warnings for humans. It’s absurd how obsessed they are with money & tourism IMO. Make the tourists ride a bike instead. We have so many bikes not being ridden! Make them take the double decker bus. The other thing tourists do is drive the wrong way on streets on side-by-sides. Don’t get me started about that. I’ve personally prevented accidents by placing my body in front of the offenders.
Crap, I got all riled up onto the wrong topics. Sorry Rashid.
The distraction is the mention of race. It is not relevant. In the case of Obama, he is commonly referred to as black. He refers to himself that way. He is precisely as Caucasian as he is black. He is exactly 50% of each. It would be fair to say he doesn't have "a" race. The same is true of Harris. One of her parents was from India, whatever race anyone thinks that is, and the other was black, from Jamaica. Trump's ham-handed argument is that he's confused about her race. Her race doesn't mean anything. Neither did Obama's. They're American citizens. And if they do a good job, they care about other American citizens. End of tortured tale. Trump would protest if someone wondered if he was a "kraut," because his father's family came from Germany. He would know that's not relevant. His nonsense is distraction and dog whistles, and pathetically, there are plenty of dogs in this country. They weren't at this interview, but they attend his rallies.
greg, I forgot to mention the Chinese population of Jamaica. There are many Chinese people in the Caribbean, including in Jamaica. (Not to mention the considerable South Asian population of Trinidad and Tobago.) I have a friend who was born in Cuba, and whose father was Chinese, and whose mother was Cuban, whatever that means. A former president of Peru was Alberto Fujimori, whose forebears were from Japan. I don't know whom Fujimori married, if he had children, and what "race" anyone thinks his children would have been (or are).
As I said, race is just a dysfunctional mess. They're all just people.
greg, no offense, but your question is unanswerable and meaningless. Harris is not "Indian" (South Asian) any more than she is "black." She is precisely 50% of each -- so not a whit more one than the other -- except we don't know what "black" means in her case. One of her parents was Jamaican. There are Caucasians, Africans, South Asians, Europeans, aborigines (mostly Carib and Arawak), and mixes in Jamaica. And the Caucasians' forebears came from somewhere else, generally in Europe. (It would be a mistake to call Harris "black" because one of her parents was Jamaican.) So it's a meaningless shorthand to call Jamaicans "black." I assume, for example, that you know that Bob Marley's mother was what many people would call "black," and his father was a Britisih Caucasian military man. So as with Obama, there is precisely as much reason to call Marley "black" as there is to call him Caucasian/"white." Such people used to be called mulatto, which has probably gone out of favor/style, although it is correct.
As for Harris, I don't know what "Indian" (South Asian) means. I think the people of South Asia (they prefer that to Indian, for whatever reason) are technically Aryan, (Hitler promoted Aryans as if he considered them the height of being Caucasian) although there's a significant variation among them, perhaps contributing to the caste system. Harris is very light-skinned, possibly even more so than was Marley, so she did not come from both a dark skinned "black" parent and a dark skinned South Asian or Jamaican parent.
I don't know what her "race" is. Race is mostly an invented construct among humans. It has little purpose, no value, and appears to do nothing but cause problems. I do, however, agree that Harris is female.
No offense, but it is quite meaningful to some people (myself not included). Incidentally, my question was not about the races, but rather the mention thereof. It is curious one seems celebrated and not the other.
The mention of race is not relevant to people like yourself and me and millions of others. However, it is very relevant to MAGAs who have been bamboozled into believing that one is lesser if they aren’t if a certain race. The media did not report on this when Obama was running for President. I do like how you put it and n your response. I really don’t think they have anything else going for them. They have tried the usual border stuff. They lied about that because they blocked a bill for the border. Oops, getting off track a little. Thank you for that perspective!
You know, Huley, I don't think the MAGA cult cares about race, either. I know it's odd to say. There are several or many African Americans who are MAGA devotees, Vance is married to someone generally referred to as "brown," Trump appointed at least one African American to his cabinet, and I think all they really want is victory and power. Dismissing Harris because she's half African Caribbean and half South Asian is a game. It's like all of Trump's blatant lies. It is, as Qasim said, a distraction. That's its intention.
I can’t agree with you on that. Just look at the hate being spewed upon JD Vance’s wife. As someone else has stated here, some are willing to change who they are to be a part of that movement. It is probably not important to some, but that is his base and he knows what plays well with them. The hatred which comes from some just illustrates how driven they are.
It's true that Vance seems to be sinking fast. My impression was that it was because he was a glaring jerk, but perhaps you're right. Although they have no complaints about Thomas, Richardson, Donalds, Carson, Haley, Ramaswamy, and a number of other highly visible people. And as much as Trump, etc, complain about physically defective people, they don't complain about Abbott. Not a race issue, I know, but perhaps related.
Once again you tell the simple truth of the matter. Thank you for this article and so many others. So much for there being no racism in the country as some would have us believe. This imbecile known as donald trump must be stopped now and forevermore. People who think like him must be exposed for the racists that they are. Newspapers and Networks who normalize this behavior must be put on notice that we will not tolerate nonsense like this! They must do better than this!
The mainstream media is downplaying Trump's and MAGAland's blatant racism and sexism! Seems they already have implemented Project 2025!😬😡😡😡😡💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 vote blue
Language has long been a powerful tool to reduce and dehumanize. It's why it's so critical we call it out and counter it at every moment. Media should be doing this, but sadly legacy media remains complicit.
What on earth is wrong with using your given middlename and married last name? Or is it just OK on your side to question racial alliance when they have an "R" next to their name? Curious, how do you reconcile "Beto"?
#ConvictedFelonTraitorTrump 💩🤡🪱🧠🐔💩🤬
How disheartening to see the things people do to be accepted within a group. Yes, let’s stay focused. Trump and Republicans are working hard to make this an election for the ages. Let’s not let them bring in another slate of weird to spew disinformation about our voting systems. #NOTAGAIN
I celebrate inclusion and the food oh, the food. Go ahead pick a country. Pick a culture, please
What is a favorite
I'm keeping fingers crossed for a taco truck on every corner :)
I am working on recipes learning why this food tastes so very very good.
Truth!
That whitewashing part was formerly ingrained into all color of people in my area of southern Mississippi. It still is, & I call it out when I see it, regardless of person’s skin pigment. There are absolutely black nationalists & christo-fascists in my area. I’ve met them & they absolutely have hate of “other” that they will not budge about due to their traumas or their grandparents traumas or great grandparents traumas. Just more proof IMO that religion isn’t as healing as people here believe.
I never thought I would ever in my life live in a city in the USA that values their confederate statues over human beings. I drive by the concrete crap every week & not once has my anger at the human injustice of it abated.
I live in a city that is so oblivious to humans & animals, that it continues to allow an 8’ish person carriage ride (usually hauling obese people) through downtown pulled by a single small horse, on the exact days we have consistent back to back heat warnings for humans. It’s absurd how obsessed they are with money & tourism IMO. Make the tourists ride a bike instead. We have so many bikes not being ridden! Make them take the double decker bus. The other thing tourists do is drive the wrong way on streets on side-by-sides. Don’t get me started about that. I’ve personally prevented accidents by placing my body in front of the offenders.
Crap, I got all riled up onto the wrong topics. Sorry Rashid.
Very Well Said Mr. Rashida.
If Trump loses in November he will also lose his Freedom.
If Trump wins in November, all Americans will lose their Freedoms!
Vice President Harris has my support.
Kamala needs support from all Freedom loving Americans!
The distraction is the mention of race. It is not relevant. In the case of Obama, he is commonly referred to as black. He refers to himself that way. He is precisely as Caucasian as he is black. He is exactly 50% of each. It would be fair to say he doesn't have "a" race. The same is true of Harris. One of her parents was from India, whatever race anyone thinks that is, and the other was black, from Jamaica. Trump's ham-handed argument is that he's confused about her race. Her race doesn't mean anything. Neither did Obama's. They're American citizens. And if they do a good job, they care about other American citizens. End of tortured tale. Trump would protest if someone wondered if he was a "kraut," because his father's family came from Germany. He would know that's not relevant. His nonsense is distraction and dog whistles, and pathetically, there are plenty of dogs in this country. They weren't at this interview, but they attend his rallies.
Was there ever mention that we have our first Indian vice president? Or was it just first Black and first woman?
greg, I forgot to mention the Chinese population of Jamaica. There are many Chinese people in the Caribbean, including in Jamaica. (Not to mention the considerable South Asian population of Trinidad and Tobago.) I have a friend who was born in Cuba, and whose father was Chinese, and whose mother was Cuban, whatever that means. A former president of Peru was Alberto Fujimori, whose forebears were from Japan. I don't know whom Fujimori married, if he had children, and what "race" anyone thinks his children would have been (or are).
As I said, race is just a dysfunctional mess. They're all just people.
greg, no offense, but your question is unanswerable and meaningless. Harris is not "Indian" (South Asian) any more than she is "black." She is precisely 50% of each -- so not a whit more one than the other -- except we don't know what "black" means in her case. One of her parents was Jamaican. There are Caucasians, Africans, South Asians, Europeans, aborigines (mostly Carib and Arawak), and mixes in Jamaica. And the Caucasians' forebears came from somewhere else, generally in Europe. (It would be a mistake to call Harris "black" because one of her parents was Jamaican.) So it's a meaningless shorthand to call Jamaicans "black." I assume, for example, that you know that Bob Marley's mother was what many people would call "black," and his father was a Britisih Caucasian military man. So as with Obama, there is precisely as much reason to call Marley "black" as there is to call him Caucasian/"white." Such people used to be called mulatto, which has probably gone out of favor/style, although it is correct.
As for Harris, I don't know what "Indian" (South Asian) means. I think the people of South Asia (they prefer that to Indian, for whatever reason) are technically Aryan, (Hitler promoted Aryans as if he considered them the height of being Caucasian) although there's a significant variation among them, perhaps contributing to the caste system. Harris is very light-skinned, possibly even more so than was Marley, so she did not come from both a dark skinned "black" parent and a dark skinned South Asian or Jamaican parent.
I don't know what her "race" is. Race is mostly an invented construct among humans. It has little purpose, no value, and appears to do nothing but cause problems. I do, however, agree that Harris is female.
No offense, but it is quite meaningful to some people (myself not included). Incidentally, my question was not about the races, but rather the mention thereof. It is curious one seems celebrated and not the other.
What does race mean to some people? Which is celebrated, and which is not?
Was there ever mention that we have our first Indian vice president?
The mention of race is not relevant to people like yourself and me and millions of others. However, it is very relevant to MAGAs who have been bamboozled into believing that one is lesser if they aren’t if a certain race. The media did not report on this when Obama was running for President. I do like how you put it and n your response. I really don’t think they have anything else going for them. They have tried the usual border stuff. They lied about that because they blocked a bill for the border. Oops, getting off track a little. Thank you for that perspective!
You know, Huley, I don't think the MAGA cult cares about race, either. I know it's odd to say. There are several or many African Americans who are MAGA devotees, Vance is married to someone generally referred to as "brown," Trump appointed at least one African American to his cabinet, and I think all they really want is victory and power. Dismissing Harris because she's half African Caribbean and half South Asian is a game. It's like all of Trump's blatant lies. It is, as Qasim said, a distraction. That's its intention.
A distraction. Yes. Epstein files are still out, and still relevant.
Plus trump will never grace a question with an answer.
If i were his teacher, i woukd fail him for filling up the exam page, but never answering the question.
But also, the media jumps on his distractions and ignore the relevant stuff just as much as he does. They feed on each other.
I believe you have something there. What a sad state these folks are in. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and perspective. I appreciate it.
I've started my own Substack page. I call it "The Doctor Is...In." Can I get your opinion? It might be terrible.
I can’t agree with you on that. Just look at the hate being spewed upon JD Vance’s wife. As someone else has stated here, some are willing to change who they are to be a part of that movement. It is probably not important to some, but that is his base and he knows what plays well with them. The hatred which comes from some just illustrates how driven they are.
It's true that Vance seems to be sinking fast. My impression was that it was because he was a glaring jerk, but perhaps you're right. Although they have no complaints about Thomas, Richardson, Donalds, Carson, Haley, Ramaswamy, and a number of other highly visible people. And as much as Trump, etc, complain about physically defective people, they don't complain about Abbott. Not a race issue, I know, but perhaps related.
Dogs make more sense than alot of humans
Once again you tell the simple truth of the matter. Thank you for this article and so many others. So much for there being no racism in the country as some would have us believe. This imbecile known as donald trump must be stopped now and forevermore. People who think like him must be exposed for the racists that they are. Newspapers and Networks who normalize this behavior must be put on notice that we will not tolerate nonsense like this! They must do better than this!
The mainstream media is downplaying Trump's and MAGAland's blatant racism and sexism! Seems they already have implemented Project 2025!😬😡😡😡😡💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 vote blue
It does look that way, doesn’t it?
Thanks and 100% agree amigo.
Wonderfully written. I appreciate how you've highlighted the nuance in language and how said language is aiming to reduce her. She cannot be reduced.
Language has long been a powerful tool to reduce and dehumanize. It's why it's so critical we call it out and counter it at every moment. Media should be doing this, but sadly legacy media remains complicit.
Legacy media indeed remains complicit. The WaPo’s tagline is risible—under its watch, democracy dies in broad daylight.