Eye opening post, thank you. I have no doubt that the Russian GOP and Kash Patel are gathering evidence against Trump haters from all social media platforms to be used against them in the near future. Clearview AI already got a billion photos of everyone……
For shame LA Times. My Dad worked there in the 30s. He aspired to be a journalist and read the Times all his life. I'm so glad he's not around to see this!
The sad truth is - the mainstream media - does NOT represent the people, or the truth. What this tells us is we have to be deliberate in looking for that truth, and for finding the people who support and seek it also. Thank you for providing a space that does both.
you remain hypocritical to your core. when will you talk about Hamas and how they have taken hostages to let them rot underground? zero visits from red cross, no food ? When will you try to even fake that you care about humanity and not just about your blatant antisemitism? one little condemnation does not cut it. Why don't you write you colum about the atrocities Hamas committed? you cant and you wont because it defies your agenda.
Yes Joseph, if only I'd condemned Hamas war crimes in writing on 10/7 (oh wait I did). And if only I'd condemned Hamas war crimes as far back as 2012, in writing (oh wait I did). And if only I'd stated that attacks on Israeli civilians are never justified (oh wait I always have).
The actual hypocrisy is from genocide apologists who refuse to recognize Israel's illegal military occupation of Palestine, the fact that Netanyahu is a credibly accused war criminal who bombed more than 100 hospitals and medical centers, and that Netanyahu funded Hamas for years.
You can't and won't admit those facts because it defies your agenda of whitewashing genocide.
Be surprised. I know netanyahu has been funding hamas to buy himself more time on his throne. But I read back many of your articles. you say you condemn hamas for 10/7, but saying two words about it and moving on back to condemning Israel is NOT condemnation. You wrote endless articles about "evil" israel, but not a single one about hamas. I also did not see anything from you about the testimony of those that returned from the tunnels, or the fact that the red cross has never once visited them.
and israel left gaza in 2005 , there was no military occupation there, not Israeli one at least. And not one Person can ever answer the question of "what is the appropriate response to 10/7 ". Im sure you are content with one of the interviewees recently that said, hostages should be delighted they gotr a ceremony and goody bags from Hamas on their way out.
Not my fault your reading comprehension is too remedial to see my clear condemnations. And surely not my fault that you whitewash genocide. Shame on you. Take your hate elsewhere. It isn’t welcome here.
Thanks for responding. My point (perhaps naive) was more about putting them on the spot in terms of their reputation management. You point out their “errors” with hard evidence and then report to, in a sense, the world at large (or at least your readers) on how they deal with the truth: do they publish a correction, or do they ignore or double down? The ball would be back in their court and whatever their response, it could be instructive to a lot of people about what sort of paper they really are.
MAGA metaphors for “facts:” Play-doh (squish to fit any storyline); the shells around sunflower seeds that are spit out as inedible; harmful, like broken glass on the floor; unnecessary like extra IKEA parts. The Play-doh version can be the worst because it always contains a provable fact that is then used as a foundation for the distortions that follow.
Not that this matters, but all of our yelling and screaming, it isn’t helping. I appreciate you bringing up all of the details, but it’s just not working even with the power of the judge. I’m not a pacifist and at this point the way it’s going against the lawful , the law and the lawyers, if we want to take it back, it will become an armed power struggle. I understand that most of you don’t back this up, but perhaps you didn’t come from a violent background.
I disagree. And I came from a country that justifies killing me for my faith, and have had family members lynched and tortured to death. So yeah, I understand, and I choose this path of education and advocacy and a relentless commitment to justice anyway.
This is truly horrible. I canceled my subscription to the LA Times after the election, and wish I could do so again. Is there someone we should contact to complain about this perversion of the truth? I would gladly do so!
What a thoughtful, insightful, and brilliant article. In fact it is the best breakdown of an article I have ever read. I am so proud to be a paid subscriber. We need to help with keeping critical thinking alive and active. Thank you.
Thank you for this. It is wonderful to have a resource to refer to when talking about this, and keeping the truth out there. It is appalling how far we have fallen. It affects us all if the constitution falls.
As a Jew who is not antisemitic, I strongly oppose the actions taken against Mahmoud Khalil. Most American Jews, like most Americans in general, support the rule of law concerning green card holders, or any other *person* on our soil. Those who would call me "antisemitic" because I deplore Israel's genocidal actions in Gaza, including the excruciatingly cruel barring of humanitarian aid, are, in my judgment, self-serving. There is no honor in wielding antisemitism as a cudgel to achieve evangelical goals, or to power undemocratic deportation aims.
I cancelled my LA Times subscription under 3 strikes you are out. Three times they published garbage and then also didn't bother to report on Bernie Sanders when he spoke before 13,000 people at Venice Beach plus those watching live on YouTube (which included me as I know the parking is terrible there). If they couldn't bother to cover a Presidential Candidate speaking at their back door what use are they. That's in addition to distorted reporting. Another one was a article about LAPD shootings which showed a map of LA County which contains 50 Cities besides L.A. many with their own Police Departments and other using the LA County Sheriff Department. I'm fine with criticizing LAPD but not with showing shootings for LA County. This is beyond shoddy. Sorry for ranting but the LA Times infuriates me.
Eye opening post, thank you. I have no doubt that the Russian GOP and Kash Patel are gathering evidence against Trump haters from all social media platforms to be used against them in the near future. Clearview AI already got a billion photos of everyone……
For shame LA Times. My Dad worked there in the 30s. He aspired to be a journalist and read the Times all his life. I'm so glad he's not around to see this!
The sad truth is - the mainstream media - does NOT represent the people, or the truth. What this tells us is we have to be deliberate in looking for that truth, and for finding the people who support and seek it also. Thank you for providing a space that does both.
Omg-when large media bends the knee, we know it’s bad.
Excellent article QR. You are correct. Bottom line, this must be stopped. If not, no one has any rights. Keep fighting!
Thank you Michael
wow. Great analysis. The LAT piece was a horrendous excuse for journalism.
Thank you for reading, Yamuna, and yes agreed. Absurd that they published that.
you remain hypocritical to your core. when will you talk about Hamas and how they have taken hostages to let them rot underground? zero visits from red cross, no food ? When will you try to even fake that you care about humanity and not just about your blatant antisemitism? one little condemnation does not cut it. Why don't you write you colum about the atrocities Hamas committed? you cant and you wont because it defies your agenda.
Yes Joseph, if only I'd condemned Hamas war crimes in writing on 10/7 (oh wait I did). And if only I'd condemned Hamas war crimes as far back as 2012, in writing (oh wait I did). And if only I'd stated that attacks on Israeli civilians are never justified (oh wait I always have).
The actual hypocrisy is from genocide apologists who refuse to recognize Israel's illegal military occupation of Palestine, the fact that Netanyahu is a credibly accused war criminal who bombed more than 100 hospitals and medical centers, and that Netanyahu funded Hamas for years.
You can't and won't admit those facts because it defies your agenda of whitewashing genocide.
Be surprised. I know netanyahu has been funding hamas to buy himself more time on his throne. But I read back many of your articles. you say you condemn hamas for 10/7, but saying two words about it and moving on back to condemning Israel is NOT condemnation. You wrote endless articles about "evil" israel, but not a single one about hamas. I also did not see anything from you about the testimony of those that returned from the tunnels, or the fact that the red cross has never once visited them.
and israel left gaza in 2005 , there was no military occupation there, not Israeli one at least. And not one Person can ever answer the question of "what is the appropriate response to 10/7 ". Im sure you are content with one of the interviewees recently that said, hostages should be delighted they gotr a ceremony and goody bags from Hamas on their way out.
Not my fault your reading comprehension is too remedial to see my clear condemnations. And surely not my fault that you whitewash genocide. Shame on you. Take your hate elsewhere. It isn’t welcome here.
Would it be worth you putting this directly to the LA Times and reporting back on how exactly they deal with your refutations of their assertions?
I’d like to second this.
I doubt they would publish it
Thanks for responding. My point (perhaps naive) was more about putting them on the spot in terms of their reputation management. You point out their “errors” with hard evidence and then report to, in a sense, the world at large (or at least your readers) on how they deal with the truth: do they publish a correction, or do they ignore or double down? The ball would be back in their court and whatever their response, it could be instructive to a lot of people about what sort of paper they really are.
Yep fair point for sure.
MAGA metaphors for “facts:” Play-doh (squish to fit any storyline); the shells around sunflower seeds that are spit out as inedible; harmful, like broken glass on the floor; unnecessary like extra IKEA parts. The Play-doh version can be the worst because it always contains a provable fact that is then used as a foundation for the distortions that follow.
Not that this matters, but all of our yelling and screaming, it isn’t helping. I appreciate you bringing up all of the details, but it’s just not working even with the power of the judge. I’m not a pacifist and at this point the way it’s going against the lawful , the law and the lawyers, if we want to take it back, it will become an armed power struggle. I understand that most of you don’t back this up, but perhaps you didn’t come from a violent background.
I disagree. And I came from a country that justifies killing me for my faith, and have had family members lynched and tortured to death. So yeah, I understand, and I choose this path of education and advocacy and a relentless commitment to justice anyway.
Everyone needs to read this - especially the Right.
Thank you ❤️✊🏽
This is truly horrible. I canceled my subscription to the LA Times after the election, and wish I could do so again. Is there someone we should contact to complain about this perversion of the truth? I would gladly do so!
The editorial board for sure.
What a thoughtful, insightful, and brilliant article. In fact it is the best breakdown of an article I have ever read. I am so proud to be a paid subscriber. We need to help with keeping critical thinking alive and active. Thank you.
Honored Kimberly, thank you.
Thank you for this. It is wonderful to have a resource to refer to when talking about this, and keeping the truth out there. It is appalling how far we have fallen. It affects us all if the constitution falls.
Exactly right. We are all in this together.
As a Jew who is not antisemitic, I strongly oppose the actions taken against Mahmoud Khalil. Most American Jews, like most Americans in general, support the rule of law concerning green card holders, or any other *person* on our soil. Those who would call me "antisemitic" because I deplore Israel's genocidal actions in Gaza, including the excruciatingly cruel barring of humanitarian aid, are, in my judgment, self-serving. There is no honor in wielding antisemitism as a cudgel to achieve evangelical goals, or to power undemocratic deportation aims.
Shalom Judith and thank you for your commitment to justice and compassion for all humanity.
I cancelled my LA Times subscription under 3 strikes you are out. Three times they published garbage and then also didn't bother to report on Bernie Sanders when he spoke before 13,000 people at Venice Beach plus those watching live on YouTube (which included me as I know the parking is terrible there). If they couldn't bother to cover a Presidential Candidate speaking at their back door what use are they. That's in addition to distorted reporting. Another one was a article about LAPD shootings which showed a map of LA County which contains 50 Cities besides L.A. many with their own Police Departments and other using the LA County Sheriff Department. I'm fine with criticizing LAPD but not with showing shootings for LA County. This is beyond shoddy. Sorry for ranting but the LA Times infuriates me.
Papers like the LA Times continue to fall unfortunately. The fourth estate is failing.