As Senate confirmation hearings start, the Trump administration is clear they plan to decimate the wall that separates religion and state—we cannot let that happen
When the loudest and most powerful voices in the USA attacked the teachings of Jesus Christ described by a WOMAN bishop in the National Cathedral, any American with a shred of decency should have called them out….what we got was mostly crickets.
Christian Nationalism does not accept all denominations of Christianity ya'll. You are either born again or you are opposition! Only for fealty does tfg incorporate 'Christians' as he is told 'they all are'. No! They are Christian Nationalism. No separation of Church and State! One side of my family are Christians. The one who I see as the epitome would never have approved of tfg! She read her Bible on the constant. Consulted its teachings for her daily life and response. Respected they're are many who believe differently and was willing to listen. I never felt judged though she wished I joined in my father's faith. My Dad loved my mom and she was not a Christian. She was a Jewish girl. This would have my Aunt in tears. This 'person' who is needy in the praise is an abomination to the Christianity my Aunt spoke of! No one is Christ and tfg openly said he has never asked for forgiveness and cannot see where anything he has done requires forgiveness! It was not hyperbole!!!! You can tell yourself all you want, #ITmeansIt
They’re a joke. They can have all the wet dreams they want, but the US isn’t going to be Christian Nationalist in any real sense. Men won’t give up drinking, gambling or porn, and women won’t give up their dildos.
This is about one thing: MONEY! That’s all that ever matters in the US!
So....we address this, but what now? I'm losing what's left of my mental health. We can't even get Biden to stop contributing to a genocide, nor can we get the old fart to free 80 year old Leonard Peltier.
Look...there is no shortage of stuff on the internet about all the shitstorms to come, but nothing on how to stop them. It's just slow torture. There is no way we can, otherwise that fucking maniac Trump would have lost to Kamala Harris. The Democrats are feckless and won't do a thing to stop Trump from installing the worst people in the most important positions in the federal government. Trump belongs in prison, but the Democrats wouldn't do the job. They have allowed a psychopath to become, once again, the most powerful and most dangerous person on earth.
Church and state? What about freedom from tyranny?
The USA (since WWII, Transnational Western) power elite propped up Christofascists around the world esp. in the wake of WWII, like Franco, Chiang Kai-Shek, South Africa under Smuts, Hertzog et al, much of WACL qualified, etc. Some even prior to WWII, tarnishing the legacy of Saint FDR, whose actual game was a cynical ploy to „save capitalism” despite lofty rhetoric appropriating that of the real freedom fighters. So it’s not particularly surprising for Christofascism to „come home.” I’m suspicious that its severity is being radically underestimated by the vast majority of commentators, though. It’s good to see this Substack seeming to deem it as harmful as it actually is.
The legal impetus to successfully impose no abortion etc has been in play for decades. These Christian/Supremacists have won the battle. WE are defeated. A Baptist Bible Belter of the Deep South put it very articulately. “THEIR ‘christian’ NATIONALISM is ANTI-JESUS. It is about political power and supremacy of the majority at any costs. ANY COSTS!”
I am pleasantly surprised these wack-nuts have not passed a FEDERAL LAW to outlaw BIBLICAL red ink. (As in historical Jesus’s’ verbatim words).
The CCP appointed female panty monitors to survey women’s underwear when they were pushing their wack-nut one child policy. At any time drop your panties so the monitoring official could check if the female was still menstruating. Welcome to my state owned privacy. BLEH. So please back up your elapsed time clock and measure Christian Supremacist Minority Nationalism on a different scale?
Another way to look at this is political power hungry monsters are using their congregations and church properties to promote 100% political means WITHOUT PAYING TAXES! Remind any one of the Oligarchic structure that is upon us? So hold your Bible upside down, Black Mass style; and street murder any opposition? Brown Shirts, SSBlack Shirts, Orange Skins, RUPERT Fox Gnus true believers. Oh Baby….
The first thing to understand about Christian nationalism is that it’s not really about Christianity. It’s a parasitic distortion, devouring faith from within and leaving behind a hollow husk. It’s a blasphemous hybrid of faith and politics, stitched together from cherry-picked Bible verses like some twisted theological Frankenstein. Their doctrine? A grab bag of convenient biblical one-liners that justify a political agenda rather than illuminate a spiritual path. This isn’t the faith of the humble carpenter of Nazareth; it’s a gospel with all the nuance of a crucifix wielded like a cudgel to bludgeon dissent and seize control.
All religious fanaticism is the same. But what's interesting is that Americans seem to understand the difference between regular and radical Christianity, but think that all Muslims are secret members of the Taliban or that Islam is a "violent" religion. I think Americans just can't bring themselves to publicly criticize Christianity even if they themselves are Christians.
As a former Christian Nationalist, one of the most helpful things was people who promoted Christians practicing true Christianity. Churches that turned their facilities into refugee centers and offered ELL to incoming Syrian families. People promoting the peace work of Jimmy Carter. Dolly Parton giving away her wealth to poor communities. Wealthy Christians buying medical debt in order to forgive it. Thank you for continuing to make the distinction. Christian Nationalism was so loud and prolific in my churches that I genuinely was unaware there was an alternative until my late 20s.
As bad as Christian Nationalism and the source of it in America, is the religion of Americanism - American Exceptionalism. Until Americans rid themselves of that concept, a Nazi type end is always on the table.
The real danger is proselytizing, seeking converts. This is very dangerous and can easily get way out if hand. It can get into my religion is better than yours, for starters. Every religion has a way to join it, but nobody should be recruited. Missionaries should confine their efforts to helping others, but not recruiting them. It is important than people understand what people believe, but in an objective way. You can’t study history without mentioning religion. The Roman Empire, The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, and World War II, in Europe all involve religion. Some of it is overt, and some is more subtitle.
Christian nationalists and the fash like the Crusades a lot. They also like the Roman Empire: there’s a weird classics-to-fash pipeline and vice versa among young far right men I have noticed. I wrote here about the lovely Pete and his view of the world as it relates to the old old story of the cosmic war.
Probably because they don’t have all the facts. The Romans, who eventually became the Italians, were responsible for most of the Popes, but before they adopted Christianity, were very much against it. They attempted to wipe it out.
The Crusades were pretty much a disaster. The crusaders never retook The Holy Land. About the only people who benefited from it were The Knights of Malta, I think, but they were taken down by the king of France. However, The Crusades eventually brought about the end of the Middle Ages, and eventually the age of exploration.
Most of these right wing Christians are very selective in their beliefs.
First, this so called Christian nationalism is not Christianity as Jesus taught it. Period. Its not. No love your neighbor as yourself is going on with people who scream advocations of death to those who believe differently. Insane. Second, anyone who even brushes up against inequality, who doesn’t find it offensive, is not Christian. No one who thinks it is ok to own others- a real metaphor there in our new robber baron atmosphere- could ever be a real Christian.
Thank you for standing against the insanity so effectively.
I rarely find anything to disagree with you about and I don’t “ mansplain” anything but I have not heard credible evidence to blanketly claim Jefferson raped a woman he was clearly in love with. She had her own chambers with lovely things including more children. We were not there and while it is unbelievable these guys could hear god to form our nation while not seeing the equality of women and people of color, god would not condone slavery, rape, or taking any unfair advantage. Love is the universal solvent in our bodies as water is on earth.
No need to disparage Jefferson here even as the Jefferson Bible itself, a fine collection, misses the mark entirely. Jefferson collected the words of Jesus yet it is his works that prove his status as the highest christ office we know of. Jesus knew how to see the real spiritually perfect man where failing mortal man appeared. We would all do good to see these people more purely on our prayers. Maybe they get hit coals on their heads, think Matt gaetz. But maybe they transform and loving our enemies gets us new friends. I realize this sounds like a real long shot given the depth of their sins being permeated in thought exploding as deed.
If only these fake Christians understood and genuinely loved the principle of all. They would see we love our neighbor because he is part of the oneness of God that we are part of. Sorry for the lesson in true Christianity today as these nationalists don’t get it but we should. We can defeat this evil when we see its true nothingness as odd as that sounds. None of the views expressed by these so called Christian nationalists is Christian nor will it actually serve our nation and what it stands for including freedom from harm of others and equal opportunity to succeed in our thoughtful efforts at helping others by doing what we love.
Absolutely not! Jefferson OWNED Sally Hemings! She was his wife's half sister! Sally had NO consent in the rape. Go to Monticello and see the actually tiny little cabin he made her stay in when he wasn't raping her. Slaves have NO consent in thier treatment and didn't volunteer for the abuse!
I don’t have time to go back, cleaning up storm debris but I thought you said Jefferson raped sally. I’m sorry if I misunderstood. All of this pigs in the trough is stressing me out!
When the loudest and most powerful voices in the USA attacked the teachings of Jesus Christ described by a WOMAN bishop in the National Cathedral, any American with a shred of decency should have called them out….what we got was mostly crickets.
Christian Nationalism does not accept all denominations of Christianity ya'll. You are either born again or you are opposition! Only for fealty does tfg incorporate 'Christians' as he is told 'they all are'. No! They are Christian Nationalism. No separation of Church and State! One side of my family are Christians. The one who I see as the epitome would never have approved of tfg! She read her Bible on the constant. Consulted its teachings for her daily life and response. Respected they're are many who believe differently and was willing to listen. I never felt judged though she wished I joined in my father's faith. My Dad loved my mom and she was not a Christian. She was a Jewish girl. This would have my Aunt in tears. This 'person' who is needy in the praise is an abomination to the Christianity my Aunt spoke of! No one is Christ and tfg openly said he has never asked for forgiveness and cannot see where anything he has done requires forgiveness! It was not hyperbole!!!! You can tell yourself all you want, #ITmeansIt
Thanks for talking about this subject. I think it is very relevant and needs urgent address. I have written a blog-Talibanization of America..
https://sram54.substack.com/p/talibanization-of-america?r=4rsdl1
“When fascism comes to America it will be carrying the cross and the American flag.” Sinclair Lewis
Freaks of nature
They’re a joke. They can have all the wet dreams they want, but the US isn’t going to be Christian Nationalist in any real sense. Men won’t give up drinking, gambling or porn, and women won’t give up their dildos.
This is about one thing: MONEY! That’s all that ever matters in the US!
So....we address this, but what now? I'm losing what's left of my mental health. We can't even get Biden to stop contributing to a genocide, nor can we get the old fart to free 80 year old Leonard Peltier.
Look...there is no shortage of stuff on the internet about all the shitstorms to come, but nothing on how to stop them. It's just slow torture. There is no way we can, otherwise that fucking maniac Trump would have lost to Kamala Harris. The Democrats are feckless and won't do a thing to stop Trump from installing the worst people in the most important positions in the federal government. Trump belongs in prison, but the Democrats wouldn't do the job. They have allowed a psychopath to become, once again, the most powerful and most dangerous person on earth.
Church and state? What about freedom from tyranny?
The USA (since WWII, Transnational Western) power elite propped up Christofascists around the world esp. in the wake of WWII, like Franco, Chiang Kai-Shek, South Africa under Smuts, Hertzog et al, much of WACL qualified, etc. Some even prior to WWII, tarnishing the legacy of Saint FDR, whose actual game was a cynical ploy to „save capitalism” despite lofty rhetoric appropriating that of the real freedom fighters. So it’s not particularly surprising for Christofascism to „come home.” I’m suspicious that its severity is being radically underestimated by the vast majority of commentators, though. It’s good to see this Substack seeming to deem it as harmful as it actually is.
The legal impetus to successfully impose no abortion etc has been in play for decades. These Christian/Supremacists have won the battle. WE are defeated. A Baptist Bible Belter of the Deep South put it very articulately. “THEIR ‘christian’ NATIONALISM is ANTI-JESUS. It is about political power and supremacy of the majority at any costs. ANY COSTS!”
I am pleasantly surprised these wack-nuts have not passed a FEDERAL LAW to outlaw BIBLICAL red ink. (As in historical Jesus’s’ verbatim words).
The CCP appointed female panty monitors to survey women’s underwear when they were pushing their wack-nut one child policy. At any time drop your panties so the monitoring official could check if the female was still menstruating. Welcome to my state owned privacy. BLEH. So please back up your elapsed time clock and measure Christian Supremacist Minority Nationalism on a different scale?
Another way to look at this is political power hungry monsters are using their congregations and church properties to promote 100% political means WITHOUT PAYING TAXES! Remind any one of the Oligarchic structure that is upon us? So hold your Bible upside down, Black Mass style; and street murder any opposition? Brown Shirts, SSBlack Shirts, Orange Skins, RUPERT Fox Gnus true believers. Oh Baby….
The first thing to understand about Christian nationalism is that it’s not really about Christianity. It’s a parasitic distortion, devouring faith from within and leaving behind a hollow husk. It’s a blasphemous hybrid of faith and politics, stitched together from cherry-picked Bible verses like some twisted theological Frankenstein. Their doctrine? A grab bag of convenient biblical one-liners that justify a political agenda rather than illuminate a spiritual path. This isn’t the faith of the humble carpenter of Nazareth; it’s a gospel with all the nuance of a crucifix wielded like a cudgel to bludgeon dissent and seize control.
𝗛𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝗛𝘆𝗽𝗼𝗰𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘆: 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗕𝗹𝗮𝘀𝗽𝗵𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘂𝘀 𝗚𝗼𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗹 𝗼𝗳 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗡𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗺
𝗛𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿, 𝗣𝗼𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗰𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗣𝗿𝗲𝗷𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗛𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗛𝗶𝗷𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗮𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗽𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗡𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿𝗲𝘁𝗵
https://patricemersault.substack.com/p/holy-hypocrisy-the-blasphemous-gospel?r=4d7sow
Perfect !!
All religious fanaticism is the same. But what's interesting is that Americans seem to understand the difference between regular and radical Christianity, but think that all Muslims are secret members of the Taliban or that Islam is a "violent" religion. I think Americans just can't bring themselves to publicly criticize Christianity even if they themselves are Christians.
As a former Christian Nationalist, one of the most helpful things was people who promoted Christians practicing true Christianity. Churches that turned their facilities into refugee centers and offered ELL to incoming Syrian families. People promoting the peace work of Jimmy Carter. Dolly Parton giving away her wealth to poor communities. Wealthy Christians buying medical debt in order to forgive it. Thank you for continuing to make the distinction. Christian Nationalism was so loud and prolific in my churches that I genuinely was unaware there was an alternative until my late 20s.
TY @Betsy for sharing what took me many more words to express.
Congrats on your journey towards humanity.
Qasim says it well, as usual, except that Christian nationalism was the foundation of the US from the start.
As bad as Christian Nationalism and the source of it in America, is the religion of Americanism - American Exceptionalism. Until Americans rid themselves of that concept, a Nazi type end is always on the table.
The real danger is proselytizing, seeking converts. This is very dangerous and can easily get way out if hand. It can get into my religion is better than yours, for starters. Every religion has a way to join it, but nobody should be recruited. Missionaries should confine their efforts to helping others, but not recruiting them. It is important than people understand what people believe, but in an objective way. You can’t study history without mentioning religion. The Roman Empire, The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, and World War II, in Europe all involve religion. Some of it is overt, and some is more subtitle.
Christian nationalists and the fash like the Crusades a lot. They also like the Roman Empire: there’s a weird classics-to-fash pipeline and vice versa among young far right men I have noticed. I wrote here about the lovely Pete and his view of the world as it relates to the old old story of the cosmic war.
Probably because they don’t have all the facts. The Romans, who eventually became the Italians, were responsible for most of the Popes, but before they adopted Christianity, were very much against it. They attempted to wipe it out.
The Crusades were pretty much a disaster. The crusaders never retook The Holy Land. About the only people who benefited from it were The Knights of Malta, I think, but they were taken down by the king of France. However, The Crusades eventually brought about the end of the Middle Ages, and eventually the age of exploration.
Most of these right wing Christians are very selective in their beliefs.
What would make ANYONE think Johnson is himself a believer in the theocracy he trumpets.
He spouts that stuff bevause it SELLS.
I doubt the man has one iota of genuine faith or belief..
There are many people who don't understand the religion they claim to embrace. Either they're misinformed or are fakes.
Clearly he has no principles nor integrity.
First, this so called Christian nationalism is not Christianity as Jesus taught it. Period. Its not. No love your neighbor as yourself is going on with people who scream advocations of death to those who believe differently. Insane. Second, anyone who even brushes up against inequality, who doesn’t find it offensive, is not Christian. No one who thinks it is ok to own others- a real metaphor there in our new robber baron atmosphere- could ever be a real Christian.
Thank you for standing against the insanity so effectively.
I rarely find anything to disagree with you about and I don’t “ mansplain” anything but I have not heard credible evidence to blanketly claim Jefferson raped a woman he was clearly in love with. She had her own chambers with lovely things including more children. We were not there and while it is unbelievable these guys could hear god to form our nation while not seeing the equality of women and people of color, god would not condone slavery, rape, or taking any unfair advantage. Love is the universal solvent in our bodies as water is on earth.
No need to disparage Jefferson here even as the Jefferson Bible itself, a fine collection, misses the mark entirely. Jefferson collected the words of Jesus yet it is his works that prove his status as the highest christ office we know of. Jesus knew how to see the real spiritually perfect man where failing mortal man appeared. We would all do good to see these people more purely on our prayers. Maybe they get hit coals on their heads, think Matt gaetz. But maybe they transform and loving our enemies gets us new friends. I realize this sounds like a real long shot given the depth of their sins being permeated in thought exploding as deed.
If only these fake Christians understood and genuinely loved the principle of all. They would see we love our neighbor because he is part of the oneness of God that we are part of. Sorry for the lesson in true Christianity today as these nationalists don’t get it but we should. We can defeat this evil when we see its true nothingness as odd as that sounds. None of the views expressed by these so called Christian nationalists is Christian nor will it actually serve our nation and what it stands for including freedom from harm of others and equal opportunity to succeed in our thoughtful efforts at helping others by doing what we love.
Agreed. It’s so hard to reconcile how society and individuals could love freedom and justice for only some. Still I think it is more complicated.
Absolutely not! Jefferson OWNED Sally Hemings! She was his wife's half sister! Sally had NO consent in the rape. Go to Monticello and see the actually tiny little cabin he made her stay in when he wasn't raping her. Slaves have NO consent in thier treatment and didn't volunteer for the abuse!
Maybe I misunderstood but where did I disparage Jefferson?
I don’t have time to go back, cleaning up storm debris but I thought you said Jefferson raped sally. I’m sorry if I misunderstood. All of this pigs in the trough is stressing me out!
Jefferson did rape Sally Hemings, while she was enslaved to him and while
She was a minor. It’s well documented.
He raped her many times. Slave women were property and she was incapable of consent.